From: Simon Wistow Date: 16:34 on 28 Oct 2005 Subject: kcalc I'm not sure where the retardedness of this lies but, you know what, I'm going to blame kcalc and the cascade of attention deficit disorder teenagers who wrote it. I type kcalc at the command line, I expect a calculator. I'm pretty sure that with Tk, Fltk, Vb, Delphi, MSVS, Xcode or a host of other tools, I could knock up a simple calculator app in about 30 minutes. It would be lean, clean and simple. It would fire up in a couple of milliseconds, calculate things and then close. As a potential calculee with a thrist for multiplying and dividing I need no other functionality or information. Put numbers in. Get numbers out. So why the fuck does kcalc feel the need to tell me all this crap when it starts up? Hmm? Does that aid my calculation? Does it sooth my mathematically furrowed brow? No? Fucking linux retards. Creating link /usr/people/simon-wi/.kde3/socket-guinea.mpc.local. Created link from "/usr/people/simon-wi/.kde3/socket-guinea.mpc.local" to "/tmp/ksocket-simon-wi" Creating link /usr/people/simon-wi/.kde3/tmp-guinea.mpc.local. Created link from "/usr/people/simon-wi/.kde3/tmp-guinea.mpc.local" to "/tmp/kde-simon-wi" kbuildsycoca running... Id 'kde2.2/b1' was already in done-list! Id 'kde3.1/cvs' was already in done-list! Id 'kde3.0' was already in done-list! Id 'kde-3.1-toolbar' was already in done-list! Id 'kde2.2/r1' was already in done-list! Id 'kde2.2/r2' was already in done-list! Id 'kde2.2/r3' was already in done-list! Id 'kde2.2' was already in done-list! Id 'kde3' was already in done-list! Id 'kde3.1/r3' was already in done-list! Id 'kde3' was already in done-list! Id 'kde_3_1_sizeChanges' was already in done-list! Id '25082001' was already in done-list! Id 'kde3.1' was already in done-list! Id '04112002' was already in done-list! Id 'kde2.2/r1' was already in done-list! Id 'kde3.0/r1' was already in done-list! Id 'kde3' was already in done-list! Id 'kde3.0r1' was already in done-list! Id 'kde3.0/r1' was already in done-list! Id 'noatun20' was already in done-list! Id '1' was already in done-list! Id '4' was already in done-list! Id '5' was already in done-list! Id '6' was already in done-list! Id '7' was already in done-list! Id '8' was already in done-list! Id '9' was already in done-list! Id '3.1-update-identities' was already in done-list! Id '3.1-use-identity-uoids' was already in done-list! Id '3.1-new-mail-notification' was already in done-list! Id '3.1.4-dont-use-UOID-0-for-any-identity' was already in done-list! Id 'KNewsTicker-0.2' was already in done-list! Id 'KNewsTicker-0.2-Rename-KDE3' was already in done-list! Id 'KNewsTicker-0.2-Rename-KDE3.1' was already in done-list! Id 'preKDE3_a' was already in done-list! Id '3.1-1' was already in done-list!
From: Juerd Date: 16:54 on 28 Oct 2005 Subject: Re: kcalc Simon Wistow skribis 2005-10-28 16:34 (+0100): > So why the fuck does kcalc feel the need to tell me all this crap when > it starts up? Hmm? Does that aid my calculation? Does it sooth my > mathematically furrowed brow? No? You're not supposed to run KDE applications in a terminal. Hateful, yes. Juerd
From: A. Pagaltzis Date: 17:07 on 28 Oct 2005 Subject: Re: kcalc * Simon Wistow <simon@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> [2005-10-28 17:45]: > So why the fuck does kcalc feel the need to tell me all this > crap when it starts up? It's KDE! It's shiny! And check your process list, it drags along an army of daemons! And one of them obviously feels the need to justify its existence with witty console chatter. GNOME is marginally better about the background process crapola, though I wish the bloody gconfd would stop spamming my syslogs (starting/quitting/starting/quitting) plz kthxbye. I don't actually run the desktop, only particular apps, so the background processes coming and going is perfectly expected and not something to make a constant big production out of, fer crying out loud. At least many gtk+ apps can be compiled without GNOME components, so they don't start half a herd of daemons for you as a free prize for launching them. I can't remember the last time I could say "just Qt please" in the configure options of a KDE app. Sick of the "desktop environments,"
From: Jonathan Stowe Date: 11:57 on 30 Oct 2005 Subject: Re: kcalc On Fri, 2005-10-28 at 16:34, Simon Wistow wrote: > > I type kcalc at the command line, I expect a calculator. 'bc' is fewer keystrokes. HTH /J\
From: Dave Vandervies Date: 21:04 on 30 Oct 2005 Subject: Re: kcalc Somebody claiming to be Jonathan Stowe wrote: > > On Fri, 2005-10-28 at 16:34, Simon Wistow wrote: > > > I type kcalc at the command line, I expect a calculator. > > 'bc' is fewer keystrokes. xdc. I See A Great Need. Actually, I'll settle for xrpn. If I want turing completeness, I can always run it in an xterm. (Of course, that'd help more if I could find a decent manual for the thing, so I could actually figure out how to program it...) dave
From: Ricardo SIGNES Date: 22:29 on 30 Oct 2005 Subject: Re: kcalc --RGwttE/plSABi47o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Dave Vandervies <dj3vande@xxxxxx.xxx> [2005-10-30T16:04:38] > xdc. I See A Great Need. >=20 > Actually, I'll settle for xrpn. If I want turing completeness, I can > always run it in an xterm. (Of course, that'd help more if I could > find a decent manual for the thing, so I could actually figure out how > to program it...) I used to use Calcoo, http://calcoo.sourceforge.net/ It was tolerable, but I seem to recall thinking it was really slow. On a related note: anyone tried using Calculator.app's RPN mode, introduced in 10.4? The most super-awesome part about it is that you can't see the stack. I think it's supposed to help you build your memory... --=20 rjbs --RGwttE/plSABi47o Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDZUlI5IEwYcR13KMRAjNeAJ4neSEBSQL2Nh/H7gv8NGzgyAZy2wCeNhmP 0YySHCwwUwHzq+2Rdi59cUU= =514Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --RGwttE/plSABi47o--
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