From: Simon Wistow Date: 09:51 on 26 Oct 2004 Subject: firewalls Now, don't get me wrong - firewalls and security are a good thing. But the current policy of only letting DNS and HTTP through mean that there's a generation of mongtards trying to reinvent established protocols. Just over HTTP. But worse. *cough* RSS *cough*
From: Foofy Date: 23:26 on 28 Oct 2004 Subject: Re: firewalls On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:51:18 +0100, Simon Wistow <simon@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > Now, don't get me wrong - firewalls and security are a good thing. But > the current policy of only letting DNS and HTTP through mean that > there's a generation of mongtards trying to reinvent established > protocols. Just over HTTP. But worse. *cough* RSS *cough* I like how to this day a lot of off-the-shelf firewalls are too stupid to allow for popular instant messaging clients.
From: peter (Peter da Silva) Date: 10:46 on 29 Oct 2004 Subject: Re: firewalls > I like how to this day a lot of off-the-shelf firewalls are too stupid to > allow for popular instant messaging clients. I like how to this day people are still designing protocols that embed IP addresses in TCP streams and expect to be able to make arbitrary TCP connections. I like the way applications that use HTTP or HTTPS don't provide any mechanism to traverse a proxy or even to specify an alternate address. I like the way people still think that serving files from FTP only is a good idea. It's like there are people out there who have spent the last 15 years in some kind of cryogenic time capsule and think this is still the flat universally routed unfirewalled spam-free macro-virus-free Internet of 1989. Well, no, I don't like that at all.
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